01 October 2004 @ 09:05 pm
Let's hear yours!  
This seems appropriate. :)
I want to hear all your theories! (for I have none)

Theories like.. theories on Sirius, theories on Remus, theories on Snape, theories on the title of the new book, theories on anything in the future, or things in the past that would tie in... anything! :) You can put up something you've heard or someone else's theory too if you want, they don't have to be your own. :) (theories on 'ships.. hehe)

 
 
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[identity profile] sashwizzled.livejournal.com on October 2nd, 2004 03:48 am (UTC)
I don't have any myself, but I personally love [livejournal.com profile] lycoris's Chess theory (there's a link to it in her user info) - it's very interesting, although I'm not going to try and convince myself it's true yet - I'd rather just wait for the books to tell me.
[identity profile] omfgdidusayporn.livejournal.com on October 2nd, 2004 05:12 pm (UTC)
Thanks. :)
[identity profile] saccarineayako.livejournal.com on October 2nd, 2004 06:34 am (UTC)
I already explained my pet theory in this thread: http://www.livejournal.com/community/hogsmeadewkends/34766.html

Dumbledore bites it, late book 7. I should really do research on a 'Wulfric' to make this one really stick, but I think the connection to his other 2 middle names is enough for now.

Another one which I'm a little shaky on, but would be very interesting, would be if Ron turned Death Eater, or otherwise betrayed Harry. This stood out to me most in watching the PoA movie, in the scene after Harry finds out Sirius betrayed his parents. The three actors' blocking in that scene was awesome and highlighted the fact that Ron, although he is their friend, doesn't necessarily feel as close as he might or feels like he should. If Harry & Hermione start a relationship in book 6, Ron will betray them in book 7. We already know that Ron is extremely jealous of Harry to begin with. Starting a relationship with somebody he already has feelings for might be the nail in the coffin... Though, I do think that Ron would be mad, go to Voldemort, try to back out really quickly, and then get trapped with Imperius or suchlike. I don't think he'd stay evil once he was done being pissed.

Whee!

Anna - Ravenclaw
[identity profile] omfgdidusayporn.livejournal.com on October 2nd, 2004 05:14 pm (UTC)
Wow.. that's interesting. I do hope Hermione doesn't get with Harry... I'm such a huge Ron/Hermione fan. I'd be so sad. I could kind of see it happen, though... Harry just seems like the kind of guy to get his way. I could see Ron going that route.. but I hope he doesn't! ;-;

Thanks for your theory. :)
[identity profile] saccarineayako.livejournal.com on October 3rd, 2004 05:41 am (UTC)
If that does happen (Hermione & Harry), I think it'll be attraction on her part, obliviousness on his part, and absolute seething rage on Ron's part... it would basically play out like the triwizard thing. "I don't know what you're talking about." "LIARRR!"

Anna - Ravenclaw
[identity profile] shibaiko.livejournal.com on October 2nd, 2004 06:38 pm (UTC)

Dumbledore is an old english word for "bee"

~Sophia, Ravenclaw
(http://comptonmartin-info.co.uk/html/st_wulfric.html)
[identity profile] shibaiko.livejournal.com on October 2nd, 2004 06:39 pm (UTC)
oy, I messed up my html.
St Wulfric (http://comptonmartin-info.co.uk/html/st_wulfric.html).

Dumbledore is an old english word for "bee"

~Sophia, Ravenclaw
[identity profile] saccarineayako.livejournal.com on October 3rd, 2004 05:43 am (UTC)
Thanks... weird, though. And doesn't fit my theory much... but eh.

Anna - Ravenclaw
[identity profile] lonly-girl.livejournal.com on October 2nd, 2004 06:49 am (UTC)
I personally think That Harry is gonna die in the 6th book.When ever i mention this, i get yelled at "BUT ITS CALLED HARRY POTTER!" I know what its called.but how many twsts have we seen in this series? enough to think that Jkr isnt gonna leave a book without one.


Another one i have is thatwhen people fall behind the veil, they might eitehr become death eaters or their soul gets sucked out, i think they are still alive because of the voics heard.

~*~RITA~*~ Gryffindork
[identity profile] omfgdidusayporn.livejournal.com on October 2nd, 2004 05:15 pm (UTC)
I've heard a lot about the veil.. like if they could some how get out from behind the veil, then they're still alive, or something? But then only dead people can go behind it? I don't remember. But yeah, that's interesting.

Wait. If Harry dies in the sixth, what will happen in the seventh? And how would she continue it?
[identity profile] lonly-girl.livejournal.com on October 2nd, 2004 05:23 pm (UTC)
Shes smart, shell find a way.
~*~RITA~*~ Gryffindork
[identity profile] omfgdidusayporn.livejournal.com on October 2nd, 2004 06:04 pm (UTC)
So why do you think it's gunna be in the sixth and not the seventh? :P (and will Voldemort kill him off, or what?)
[identity profile] lonly-girl.livejournal.com on October 3rd, 2004 12:23 pm (UTC)
Well i think its not going to be the 7th because its not explected, nothing we read was expect at all. Siruis was the better man, While a RAT! was the killer! You never know so im just thinking diffrently. I dont know about hte last part, the prophcy is still like Waoh!
~*~RITA~*~ Gryff
[identity profile] saccarineayako.livejournal.com on October 3rd, 2004 07:29 am (UTC)
The veil reminds me of what happened in the opener for season 3 of Six Feet Under. One of the main characters had to undergo brain surgery, and died in the first few minutes. His father (who was already dead) showed up and started showing him around the afterlife. At this point, the character wasn't sure if he was dead or not, and eventually, they arrived at a funeral in the family funeral home. The main character wasn't sure if he was actually dead, so he went up to the front, threw open the casket, and it was revealed that he was alive. However, through the rest of the episode, things referred back to what happened when he was dead. His father was eating fenugreek, for example, and then the main char's wife made reference to having to take fenugreek suppliments.

ANYWAY. I think this is what will happen in the end. Harry dies, and goes behind the veil. There, he's reunited with all the people already back there--his parents & Sirius at least--and begins 'life' again with the people he loves... sort of like a puppet reflection-world.
[identity profile] omfgdidusayporn.livejournal.com on October 3rd, 2004 11:13 am (UTC)
Wow. That's cool. While you were saying the veil thing, I was thinking of it as a way to bring people back, and then pow, you mention that Harry dies. Huh. I could see that happening. I definitely don't think it'd be the best ending, but I could see JKR doing that.

Thanks. :)
[identity profile] fallsintoplace.livejournal.com on October 2nd, 2004 09:03 am (UTC)
Theories. *sigh* I really don't go for them in a big way. It just makes me feel even more anxious for the upcoming book, and then I get restless, and then I start bouncing off the walls. Soon enough I start feeling like flying over to London or wherever JK is and stealing her draft of HBP.

I prefer to wallow in the joys of reading the first five books to subdue my otherwise-overwhelming anticipation.

I did like the Chess Theory very much, though.

*embarrassed* I'm sorry about this pointless comment. But if I do come across anything I'll post it. I feel somewhat curious to locate other theories out there now...

- Yen, Ravenclaw.
[identity profile] omfgdidusayporn.livejournal.com on October 2nd, 2004 05:18 pm (UTC)
It's kind of neat just discussing theories. And the point of theories. I mean some people may be like, "To hell with theories. They're just theories, after all. You don't know if they're true. Just wait to see what happens." But I think it's interesting to see if the theories are right or not. And it's cool to hear about them, because even if they don't happen... it's almost like reading a fan fic or something. :)

Not pointless at all. I always love comments on my post, even if the comments don't really go anywhere. It's nice to know you read it and kind of thought about it. Thanks. <3
[identity profile] saccarineayako.livejournal.com on October 3rd, 2004 05:39 am (UTC)
I feel the same way about fanfiction... even highly acclaimed novels like Wide Sargasso Sea. We aren't SUPPOSED to know what Bertha was about before Jane Eyre meets her. Bertha is a sublimated part of Jane's psyche. That's her reason for being there. Anything you might think she did beforehand is completely unimportant and actually mangles the intent of the first novel. Instead of writing a story about how Ron & Hermione should / might get together, I discuss the theories. To each his own, and all that. :)

Anna - Ravenclaw
[identity profile] wilarin.livejournal.com on October 2nd, 2004 10:20 am (UTC)
My new favourite theory is that Sirius is really Harry's dad and that Remus is Harry's mom.
Yeah, really ...
Well, not really.
Anyway, I believe that Tom Riddle is the Half Blood Prince, though JKR stated that he is not .... he so is. Though I don't even like him ...
The problem with theories is, that there are so many - everyday another one pops up, but most of them are forgotten again right away.

Oh, I have a theory that I really love!!! *hops* but I can't tell, because I want to work it into a fic. *shrugs* it's all about Regulus, though (;

- Wilarin (Slytherin)
[identity profile] omfgdidusayporn.livejournal.com on October 2nd, 2004 05:19 pm (UTC)
Okay, I'll let you by with that, sly one, if you give me a link to the fic when you're done. :) (And I have no clue who/what Regulus is... can you explain that to me?) :)
[identity profile] shibaiko.livejournal.com on October 2nd, 2004 06:41 pm (UTC)
Regulus is Sirius' brother, IIRC. He was a death eater who got himself killed.

~Sophia, Ravenclaw
[identity profile] omfgdidusayporn.livejournal.com on October 3rd, 2004 11:18 am (UTC)
Aah. Thanks. :D <3
[identity profile] spiritedrinoa.livejournal.com on October 2nd, 2004 10:50 am (UTC)
Let's see...favorite theories...

My own theories:
  • Ginny Weasley's wizard's debt will come into play somehow. A huge deal is made about wizard's debt in PoA, in the events surrounding the sparing of Peter's life. I can't remember off the top of my head where the first mentions of wizard's debt come in to play, but I remember being very affected by Ginny's initial reactions to seeing Harry in the beginning of PoA and how awkward everything seemed with her. I got to theorizing what was going on through her head, and then when I read about wizard's debt, that sort of came in and played a part in her thoughts. Because had it not been for Harry, Ginny would have most definitely died in the chamber. Ginny, being raised in the wizarding world, I would think knows about things like wizard's debt, even at an early age.
  • Dumbledore will die in book 7. I don't really see a way around this. He is more or less what stands between a Voldemort and Harry at this point.
  • We will learn more about the Marauders. I think that we'll see more specifics (perhaps through pensieves or other newfound toys) about Lily and James. I think that it this point Harry really NEEDS to learn this stuff, especially after the big disappointment in seeing his dad at like such a self-centered show off, and seeing his parents not get along. Harry needs some sort of resolution, some missing link or something that shows the development of his parents' relationship to reassure himself that they really did love one another (recall that Harry had fleeting thoughts of Lily being forced into a relationship with James by being worn down by him or something). He had this whole lofty idea of their love and their relationship, and it was completely shattered with what he saw, so that needs some repairing.
  • Ron and Hermione will get together. Harry and Hermione will NOT. Harry sees the dynamic between Ron and Hermione, and he understands what's going on between them far more than either of them seem to realize. Even overlooking the fact that Harry seems bored when it's just he and Hermione in one another's company, Harry wouldn't move in on her, because he KNOWS that there's something between her and Ron, and as Ron's his best friend, he wouldn't put himself in the middle of that.


...and this is probably getting too long so I'll end here and add if I think of more later.
[identity profile] spiritedrinoa.livejournal.com on October 2nd, 2004 10:52 am (UTC)
Ah, and as I click post, I think of one more.

Grawp will become an important part of getting the giants involved. I think that he's going to reappear. Possibly for him to be educated a bit more (he was making some progress, I do think...he did form some sort of attachment to Hagrid)

Becca, Slytherin
[identity profile] omfgdidusayporn.livejournal.com on October 2nd, 2004 05:22 pm (UTC)
Thank you so much for that. <3
Those all make me so happy. Haha. I agree with all of them (and the last one makes me smile-- I hate Harry/Hermione nonsense). Thanks a bunch. <3

No such thing as a comment that's too long. xD
<3
[identity profile] spiritedrinoa.livejournal.com on October 2nd, 2004 05:32 pm (UTC)
Hehe...actually there is such a thing as a comment that's too long - LJ cuts you off when you hit too many characters. That's really what I meant ;)

Really? Glad to know that my theories are agreed with and make people happy. :)

Another theory that I don't really necessarily agree with, but find thoroughly interesting: Knight2King: The theory that Ron = Dumbledore (http://www.knight2king.net/Knight2King/7moves7years.html)

And I also remember a theory of Sir Nicholas being the half-blooded prince. The theory was quite interesting to read, and I think that it could be feasible, given that Nick was fairly prominent in CoS (which has the working title of HBP) and he's suddenly come into the forefront at the end of OotP with the knowledge of the afterlife (which Harry needs to learn about to learn about the veil and get closure on Sirius' death, IMO)

I tried to find that link the last time that theory came up in conversation, but alas, I have lost it...

Becca, Slytherin
[identity profile] omfgdidusayporn.livejournal.com on October 2nd, 2004 06:03 pm (UTC)
Wow, I'm so glad to get all these comments! Last night when I signed off I had none, and I was all sad.. but yay, this makes me so happy. n.n

Ooh, I like that Nick theory! That's really cool. I'll go read the Ron=Dumbledore thing.. that certainly is an odd thought. :)

Oh, I get the long comment thing.. lol. In the world of hh, there's no such thing as a long comment.. but alas, hh is in the galaxy of lj, which does have such a thing. Ah, I'm such a loser.

And again, thanks for all your input! <3
[identity profile] shiroukotori.livejournal.com on October 2nd, 2004 01:20 pm (UTC)
Well, JK has mentioned several things that have got me thinking. One: A big Secret about Lily Evans, Two: Her wand is good for charm work, Three: Voldy and Harry's wands CANNOT duel.

So, my theory is that Lily's wand is going to come back into play. JK wouldn't keep mentioning it if it wasn't important. Its going to show up SOMEWHERE, I know it. Harry can't duel with his wand against Voldemort, so perhaps he would be given his mothers. I don't really see this working though, as the dynamic between Fawkes, Dumbledore, Voldemort and Harry is so important.

I think Neville may end up with it. His wand broke in the Fifth book, his Father's wand. He has to get a new one. Neville has never been very good at Charms, but as we saw in the fifth book, he was the BEST as the DDA charms around the end and Lily's wand is "good for charmwork" as we keep getting reminded. JK has said Neville is going to be more important, I don't see him being "The One" in the Prophesy, but I definately see him having a connection to Harry in some way and helping to defeat Voldemort. I can possibly see it being NEVILLE dueling with Voldemort and Harry finishing him off.

Harry and Neville remind me of a different version of James and Peter; if James were less arrogant and a little more down to Earth and Peter were a little stronger spiritually, they would be very similar to Harry and Neville. I can see their friendship succeeding where James and Peter's failed. And in the end, isn't Peter's moral failure the entire reason for whats going on now? It seems sort of logical that it'll be the righting of this dynamic that wins back peace.

- Bri//Ravenclaw
[identity profile] omfgdidusayporn.livejournal.com on October 2nd, 2004 05:11 pm (UTC)
Wow! That's a great thought. Thanks so much. <3 I can totally see that happening. Especially with the strength Neville's been starting to show. :)

Thanks. <3
[identity profile] spiritedrinoa.livejournal.com on October 2nd, 2004 05:38 pm (UTC)
Well, the fact that Lily's wand is good for charmwork probably has something to do with her big secret, but I'm a bit skeptical that it's going to land in Neville's hands. Harry's hands...maybe...but where would Neville come across Lily Potter's wand?

James' wand, for example, was good for transfiguration, if I recall. Which would make sense, as he's an animagus, so he's more open to that sort of magic...I think the fact that Lily's wand is good for charms IS going to be important, but I think perhaps more as a characteristic of Lily that may be the focus of some storyline (as was the animagus theme...)
[identity profile] shiroukotori.livejournal.com on October 2nd, 2004 07:54 pm (UTC)
Very true, I definately see your point. I'll bet theres another storyline with Lily that will involve her wand, but it's killing me to know how its going to be done.

Neville's also going to be important and is yet another thing I'm dying to know about. Neville's loss of wand and his parents bubblegum wrappers make me think that theres more there than JK is letting on. That wand loss just seemed really important.

My brain just went Neville Loses Wand + Emphasis on Lily's wand = Maybe he gets it? I'm highly skeptical about the whole thing too, but I thought I'd put it out there, as it isn't something I've read alot of places.
[identity profile] spiritedrinoa.livejournal.com on October 2nd, 2004 09:11 pm (UTC)
If I recall...the wand was a hand me down from his father. And I think that THAT'S very important. Because a wizard works better with a wand that chooses them, whereas Neville was working with one that wasn't necessarily suited to him. Now that that wand is broken, I would hazard to guess that we'll see Neville get one that's better suited to him (and perhaps an improvement in his magic skills will come along with that?)
[identity profile] shiroukotori.livejournal.com on October 2nd, 2004 10:00 pm (UTC)
I certainly hope that he'll get better, because he deserves it more than anybody else in the whole series. (Except maybe Hagrid, but I have my own theories on him. JK said a person will learn magic later in life, maybe thats him.)
[identity profile] spiritedrinoa.livejournal.com on October 2nd, 2004 10:04 pm (UTC)
Well, Hagrid already KNOWS magic, he's just not allowed to use it, and he didn't get much training in it.

My theory is that it will be one of either Petunia Dursley, Arabella Figg, or Argus Filch (remember that in CoS Filch WAS studying it...)
[identity profile] omfgdidusayporn.livejournal.com on October 3rd, 2004 11:28 am (UTC)
But Hagrid wasn't allowed to use magic because of the CoS thing, and once they found out it wasn't him..? I haven't read the books in years, so I'm sorry if I'm really out there. But maybe they'll let him get back on his feet and all that...? :x